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Hallo

there is no way from Traveler to BBs.

But you can get a free Licence for 10 BBs and 1 BES from IBM.

Kind Regards Werner

I have not seen a detailed functional comparison matrix for Traveler vs. BES. We utilize both. There are a few major factors to consider as to what you want to support:

1) BES calendaring allows remote directory and free-time lookups for meetings from the BB device; I have not seen this on Traveler yet.

2) BES has extremely strong centralized device control, e.g. you have explicit control over nearly everything on the device.

3) Traveler allows for much larger device choice. The iPhone in particular has a fanatical following due to its ease-of-use.

4) The core functions of basic secured messaging (send/receive), over-the-air calendar syncing, and over-the-air contacts syncing (the 3 most used components) are very similar.

There are also third-party applications that compete with Traveler and provide more functionality for some devices. The key decisions seem to be based around support:

- Will there be corporate control on device choice (if so, what are the choices and why? The business logic is very important as the life cycle of a given model in the mobile market is very short).

- Who is responsible for supporting the device vs. services (carrier, corporate help desk, etc.)

- What tools are available to assist in support (there are a variety of third-party vendors who provide remote control access for many devices)

- What happens during user separation/termination/etc. Who owns the device, data, etc.?

I hope this helps!

I have not seen a detailed functional comparison matrix for Traveler vs. BES. We utilize both. There are a few major factors to consider as to what you want to support:

1) BES calendaring allows remote directory and free-time lookups for meetings from the BB device; I have not seen this on Traveler yet.

2) BES has extremely strong centralized device control, e.g. you have explicit control over nearly everything on the device.

3) Traveler allows for much larger device choice. The iPhone in particular has a fanatical following due to its ease-of-use.

4) The core functions of basic secured messaging (send/receive), over-the-air calendar syncing, and over-the-air contacts syncing (the 3 most used components) are very similar.

There are also third-party applications that compete with Traveler and provide more functionality for some devices. The key decisions seem to be based around support:

- Will there be corporate control on device choice (if so, what are the choices and why? The business logic is very important as the life cycle of a given model in the mobile market is very short).

- Who is responsible for supporting the device vs. services (carrier, corporate help desk, etc.)

- What tools are available to assist in support (there are a variety of third-party vendors who provide remote control access for many devices)

- What happens during user separation/termination/etc. Who owns the device, data, etc.?

I hope this helps!

I am working with both of them on a daily base. iPhone (latest Traveler version) in the left hand, Bold 9000 (BES 5/OS5) in the right hand. I know this sounds strange but is the only way to get the whole picture for my clients.

Just some remarks:

- iPhone/Traveler allows access to the corporate directory (I tried it with about 80000 name entries.)

- BES allows an additional remote full text search through your mailbox and limited (filesize!) access to smb shares

All in all it's comparing different fruits with each other: BB is the ultimate tool to get your business tasks done, where as the iPhone is the much better playground. Just try to do some serious phone calls with iPhone, look for all conversations with a specific contact or find and schedule a free time slot for a meeting. You will love the BB. But yes, my children love the cool games on the iPhone much more than those of the BB.

If the smartphones have to be supported by an it crowed, you will not bother with the iPhone either (as the other posts already pointed out).

If your client want to have the shining iPhone, he will get it anyway. Don't forget to buy him an Otterbox (the shiny skin of the iPhone will not last very long in the typical business use...). I personal like the iPhone @home, because there it controly my TV (eyeTV) and my music collection (iTunes)... But this should not be an argument for a business decision.

Cheers.

I forget the only advantage of the iPhone in the yellow cloud at the moment: You can use every Notes app on it without any modification! And I am not speaking about those ones with a web interface. Even the Eclipse based Standard client runs smoothly on it... The magic is done by Citrix XenApp. But at least the BB client doing the same should be already out since December...

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